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Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:02 pm

Somehow out of the mystery that is woman I have been granted a 3k budget to lift my truck and get it certed, this is my current plan

Bridgestone d694 285/75r16 - 245/70's currently
Alloy 2" body lift
Replace Shocks
Upgrade rear springs
Ball joint flip
Adjust torsion for front lift.

The issues are that there isn't a 4x4 specialist here so I am looking at
recommended supplies for shocks and springs as well as recommended products for a 50mm lift
NZ supplier of alloy 50mm body lift kits for isuzu (rubber/plastic on trademe and alloy on ebay.au)

I am pretty confident that I can change shocks and springs myself as I have done this on my cortina many years back, the ball joint flip also doesn't look like an issue, the torsion bars are a completely different story.

So who do you guys use and what products do you recommend?

Anyone heard bad things about the d694 tires?
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby slightlydodgy » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:28 pm

The torsion bars are the easiest. If you look underneath at where your torsion bars meet the chassis you will see a large bolt head (mines 27 mm i think some are 25mm). Drown this in crc or similar and leave for the night. Put a socket on the bolt with a good ratchet or breaker bar and crank to your hearts content. try to do each side about the same to check properley park on a level surface undo your sway bar and measure. Guard to ground will usually do unless your guard looks like mine.
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:38 pm

Awesome cheers dodgy

I am looking at the rancho 9000 series shocks at the moment but I am unsure of the best people to talk to, and springs have me completely confused, I need to get this nailed down before she changes her mind
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby geeves » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:29 pm

have a look at www.4x4bits.co.nz for springs and also the nz4wd mag for efs springs This gives a couple of choices. Also repco sel mactrac brand In the wizard I would get the heavy duty version and if it turns out too hard remove the overload leaf. If you can find Lovels springs they are hard to beat but dont know a local suplier
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Tbone » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:23 pm

Hi Captcol, the Lovells springs are supposed to be very good but fairly expensive, the dealer in NZ is:

Automotive Solutions [Hamilton] Ltd & Suspension City
11 Haig St, PO Box 5218, Frankton, Hamilton 3242
Ph 0800 456 835 or 07 847 7508

I bought some from Steve there, (not yet installed tho), I couldn't rate the service high enough, I'd really recommend them,
They can fit them there but i can't recall how much, dunno if they ship.
Also if you go for lifted springs be sure to read the thread on this forum about driveshaft vibration, some guys have had issues with 50mm lifted springs because it increases the angle of the driveshaft so much that it vibrates (although there do appear to be several ways to fix it).
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:40 pm

Cheers Tbone, forgot about those guys, didn't they used to be P&H suspension?

Went to one of the local shock places got quoted approx $910 +gst for custom made springs ... not so happy about that price, 265 a pair for venturer shocks (haven't heard of them) and the eye opener was $90+ for black tuff body lift kit or approx $350 for alloy. I have now sent an email to 4x4bits, and I might give automotive solutions a call on monday.
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Tbone » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:23 pm

yup same company i think, let us know what you think of the quality of that lift kit, i'm looking for one too :)
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby slightlydodgy » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:55 am

Captcol wrote:Cheers Tbone, forgot about those guys, didn't they used to be P&H suspension?

Went to one of the local shock places got quoted approx $910 +gst for custom made springs ... not so happy about that price, 265 a pair for venturer shocks (haven't heard of them) and the eye opener was $90+ for black tuff body lift kit or approx $350 for alloy. I have now sent an email to 4x4bits, and I might give automotive solutions a call on monday.

If your rear springs are leaf I got mine (heavy duty) made through BnT at $450 the pair. $90 for a body lift kit seems reasonable. Mine probably cost me that by the time I bought the umpwe and bolts
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:11 pm

coils unfortunately
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby geeves » Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:43 pm

coils are cheaper than leaves. A cheats way though is a spacer
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:16 pm

not from the prices above, thought about a spacer but figured I would get better performance from a full length spring, have got enquiries out with 4x4bits and will call automotive solutions tomorrow
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby scruff123 » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:52 pm

i got my coils wich are dobi's. heavy duty 40mm lift from standard wich was about 60mm cos the old ones had sagged allot, they were just over $200 a pair from BNT,
they seem to ride nice, not to hard or soft
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:28 am

Heard back from one supplier, bit confused as they quoted leaf springs? Efs shocks and also that they could make up the lift blocks from nylon or aluminium for $16, how can I find out how many blocks and bolt sizes etc to let them know what to supply.
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby geeves » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:42 pm

Yes I thought a 96 should be leaf spring as well??? Could you pm me your rego and chassis no so I can see whats going on. I thought coils started in 98 along with the 4jx1 enjine
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby nick123 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:13 pm

i have a 1996 wizard and its got coils in the rear i hte the inderpent front tho
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby muzila » Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:44 pm

Yup I lookd at a 96 wizard in the weekend and its got coils in the ass of it....

BTW congrats on the promotion geeves.... he he Site Admin now...... :)
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby geeves » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:07 pm

thanks
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:21 pm

PM sent, and yes I noticed your new shiny RED name.

the chasis number is ucs69gw, does anyone have the option codes listing as there are 9 codes under options that I would be interested to know what they mean, apparently it is the 4jg2 engine from what I can tell, trans RMD, Grade RBO and TIre ARD as well ...

Got a quote back to day 310 for rear coils and front shocks are $190 each and rear shocks $175 each, not sure of brand tho, they also recommended the BFG AT tires - anyone have an opinion on those tires?

Option codes in case they ring any bells
c68 DH6 G80 JE5 VFI V46 6Qr 6UY 7EX
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby geeves » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:31 pm

G80 is lsd A good option
BFG used to make good tyres with 100000km possible but they changed the compound and now they are no better than other tyres but twice the price.
Tyre choice comes down a lot to use. As you are looking for a fair size lift I expect fairly solid use and I know you get good mud up your way. I would forget the AT tyres unless you are after a road set with a second set for off road. Look at the normal type MT tyres ie maxis bighorn or buckshot, Mudstar, bfg MT, Goodyear Wrangler mtx, Coopers mt,GT Savero MT.etc
These tyres are not that bad no road if tyre pressures are right. Ive ended up with 3 sets of tyres and they are all muds
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Re: Time to lift the Wizard

Postby Captcol » Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:30 pm

well dropped in to the local mickey t dealership, told me if I wanted to fit 33" mtz's I need to buy new 15" rims that are 8.5" wide, thats another 600 for rims then 445 a corner for the tires, very expensive stuff. I might have to change my plans
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