camber kits

[wombat]

i put on some upper control arms and my front wheels are tilted inwards on my mu. i will need to get a camber kit but not sure 1. if they are all the same 2. i should use a particular brand 3. if my local wheel alignment centre will have something which fits or if i'll need to order some and supply them to be fitted???

[pig75]

They are just a standard shim. Any wheel shop will have them.
Why did you change arms?
If you have wound up your torsion bars you might need to do a ball joint flip to get enough adjustment

[wombat]

the arms were for extra lift in the front, and though i needed extended break lines there isn't much difference. didn't touch the torsion bars. thought about the ball joint flip and have read about it on the site a bit but decided against it

[Captcol]

the ball joint flip is super easy, I don't understand how you put longer arms on but now the wheels tilit inwards if you haven't touched the torsion bars, wouldn't it be the opposite? I do get confused easily though

[geeves]

If you got special upper arms for a lift you dont need the ball joint flip. Is Calmini still the only place making these?
These arms are slightly longer than the originals and angle the ball joint slightly more. There purpose is not to lift the truck but to compensate for the lack of adjustment in the suspension after a lift. To actually lift the vehicle you still need to adjust the torsion bars. Doing this may sort the wheel alignment but do lift it before getting the alignment done. Adjustment is via standard shims.

[wombat]

i got the arms from ryan at snake racing. expensive but they are high quality.

so to get extra lift in the front do i need to get IFS or is there another way??

[Captcol]

Your truck has Independant Front Suspension, unless I am missing your point. You can just wind up the torsion bars and this will lift the front, you may need to look at longer travel shocks if you like dropping into holes

[geeves]

You have IFS
I dont know the snake racing arms but they are probably good for 50mm of lift from standard. After that you put more strain on the cv joints and this still allows for 33 inch tyres.
Measure from the center of the hub to the top of the wheel arch and post the measurement here. We can then advise how far to wind up the torsion bars

[wombat]

ok, i have 52cms at the front, 56cms in the back.
i guess what i meant by IFS are the coil springs i see some people with.

[Captcol]

It is a major modification to put coil springs in the front, you are looking at changing the entire front end, dif etc.

The process to adjust torsion bars as I remember it

Soak the torsion bar adjusters with CRC or similar the night before
Disconnect sway bar on one side, this stops the truck from trying to balance what you are doing as you can only adjust one side at a time.
Jack up the front wheel on the side you want to adjust first
Wind the torsion bar adjuster up using a 1/2" breaker bar and socket (can't remember size sorry)
Let down the first wheel, change sides, jack up wheel, wind adjuster same number of turns.
Drive the truck fowards/backwards a couple of meters to get things to settle into place from being jacked up
Measure
Adjust again as necessary

Think that covers it

[98Rodeo]

The socket is a 24mm socket, its easier to remember whats going on if you mark the bolt and the bracket that holds it so you can count the turns and make both sides the same

[geeves]

a torsion bar is a coil spring It just doesnt have a twist in it. The limitations of all IFS suspension is not because of the coil but because of the limits to the angles the cv joints can handle.
Wind your front up to match the back then get the alignment done and you will be good to go. One extra point on Capicols instruction. Disconnect one side of the sway bar first and reconnect afterwards. This prevents the swaybar unbalencing the springs as you adjust each side resulting in incorrect measurement. If useing off road you may want to leave the swaybar off
I would do it for you but you have to bring the truck to me

[Captcol]

opps I forgot the reconnect sway bar part, I have just taken mine off and I reckon the front end is now more lively and responsive than with it on. Glad I listened to you fells. Hopefully get certed this week

[wombat]

thanks guys for all you help, i'll do that this weekend weather permitting and let you know how it all goes. good idea with the marking of the bolts and counting the turns, i'll do that

[geeves]

No swaybar is far better off road and although its still perfectly drivable on road without it there is more body roll. Its a lot firmer with it on.

[98Rodeo]

correction on that one, its a 27mm socket, hopefully i didn't lead you astray, although if you bought a 24mm you now have the socket that undoes your diff bolts

[zuman95]

i used this ball joint spacer with a bj flip on my 95 truck

https://www.independent4x.com/merchantm ... ucts_id=30


and this ball joint spacer with bj flip on my 95 tropper

https://www.independent4x.com/merchantm ... cts_id=521

zuman