33*10.5*15 Silverstones extremes on 15*8

[lewis]

Hey guys

So I bought supamu's 7" shackles which should give me 1.5" lift in the rear, then I will look into cranking the front/ball joint flip.
My fresh tight rear LSD is also sitting in the garage waiting for me to put back in

With tyres I was tossing up between going the whole hog and getting some 33" silverstone extremes ($370 each) or the cheaper option of mudstars ($220 each) (which claim to be 33" but are apparently only a 32" tyres). Any other true 33" mud tyre seems to be more expensive than the silverstones, and they pretty much seem to be the best in mud, although I realise they may not be the best in sand.

Unless the silverstones are scary on the road - i.e I will skid out in the open road on the wet - then I think I want to go for them, even if they wear out faster. I dont care about road noise, the engine noise is so loud anyway - a mate of mine thought it was a rubbish truck once. Anyone use them?

My bighorn is not the widebody/flares model so when looking at rims Id rather not have tyres sticking more than 1" as I dont want to fit flares (cost money, more to do, dont like the look really). What offset is the widest I can go to do this? -19 or -24? If im going to have to be fitting flares either way that would be good to know also.

Also better check that 15" rims are ok, only cause I know the standard rims are 16" and its the irmscher model with disks all round.

Last point - will the 33" fit with just 1.5" lift? I want to do a 2" body lift but maybe not if i dont have to as remounting the radiator sounds like a bit of an effort. Would be good to be able to get the gas tank higher though!

Thanks heaps!

[geeves]

I have a 2 inch suspension lift and the 32 inch mudstars can be made to rub if Im working it hard so in the silverstone I would look back at the 31 or the 32 in the mudstar.
If you decide to go the extreme way then it has to be assumed you are into serious 4wding. They are not a tyre for acceptable road use. They are loud and because they are crossply they will not be nice in the wet. Not the worst tyre you have ever driven on but close. In saying that though dont expect any mud tyre to perform like a road tyre in the wet. In the wet obey the advisory speeds on corners and 80 - 90 tops.
As for flairs You could do what I did. Miter 10 recycled plastic garden edging. Its about 30 bucks for enough to make 6 flairs 110mm wide

[lewis]

Ok thats good to hear, maybe I should save some money and get the mudstars then. I just figured putting extreme tyres on the truck is probably the best way to make it go places. Too bad one tyre cant do all jobs well. I have heard about garden edge flares before hehe and that is definitely what I would do if i had to. I am also good friends with a 4" grinder if i need a bit more space
Im guessing there woudlnt even be a noticble difference when mounted on the truck between -19 and -24 offset since its just 5mm, so guess ill just go for the cheapest which appears to be -19. Unless anyone has other thoughts on this?

I should have got this sorted before the gst rise haha, but guess its bugger all really.

Cheers

[Captcol]

I got 33"x12.5" on 15" rims, the tires were 335 each from memory (damn they are big) I do need to put some flares on so I will be off to Mitre 10 at some stage.

[oompalompa]

I got 33"x12.5" on 15" rims, the tires were 335 each from memory (damn they are big) I do need to put some flares on so I will be off to Mitre 10 at some stage.

didnt you just get new bighorns?? go on, show us your new shoes

[Captcol]

Yup maxxis bighorns 33x12.5, only have the back two on atm, had a rear shock problem which is sorted now. I start the front end tomorrow and then body lift, will put photos up at the weekend.

[lewis]

Awesome. Look forward to pics. Also how the body lift went, particularly the radiator bit

[Captcol]

yup haven't crossed that bridge yet, having enough trouble with the cv boots today

[ONO2HI]

i had 33s with no body lit or shackles, just torsions wound up a bit and leafs reset a tad.
those 33 silverstones measure nearly 31-32 inch and the 35s measre nearly 33, you may find after your lift you can go to 35s!!
i have some 33s that will fit
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 566336.htm

[geeves]

those tyres dont have 20000km on them They still have the moulding pips.

[lewis]

Ive seen those but I bet shipping would be expensive. You should put up pictures of the other tyres since that one is the spare. Are they true 33"s?
Do you run silverstones now?

Captcol did you get the body lift done this weekend?

[ONO2HI]

yeah will do more pics, i run 35 trepadores now, mate has the 35 silverstones on a hilux, but they the same size as my 33s, and yeah a true 33 tire!!

[Captcol]

Yup got the body lift on, had to order the bolts in, think i may have cross threaded one at the back ....

only got to sort the seat belt anchor retention thingies, the gear selector needs adjusting (hard to get into park) and the tires rubbing on the back of the guards

[lewis]

Did you remount the radiator or just remove the fan shroud?
Wherebouts are these seat belt anchor retention things?
Cheers

[oompalompa]

the silverstones are obvisuly awesome in mud/ dirt etc, alwys hearing how good they, but what are they like in river beds loose shingle, bolders etc.

[geeves]

good in all except loose shingle unless you have lots of horsepower. ie blown v8

[Captcol]

I removed the fan shroud, I think it may be running slightly hotter, but not much. On my truck the seat belt thingies are behind the transfer case, there is a plate mounted in the drive tunnel which is the base of the handbrake and they bolted on here and hang down to a cross member there.

[lewis]

Yeah the shroud would make it suck in air only through the radiator. Not too keen to run hotter eh. Im taking most of the front off my bighorn as there is lots of cancer in the body near around one of the body mounts (not the structural part of the body mount) and the section that goes below the radiator which is a bit of a pain in the ass. There is always more work to do isnt there! Anyway I should be able to see how I could remount the radiator. Electric fans seems cheap but then have to mess about wiring them up.
Im sure this rust would put some people off but since I have the truck anyway ill probably just bog it up and keep going haha. Dont think ill be able to weld to such thin metal. Its always been concealed by the bullbar so will just put that back on afterwards until i get a custom winch mount. Chassis isnt rusted around here at least.
Thanks for your info aye really helpful to know what im getting into before i buy a kit. Ive emailed the guy who sells them on trademe and i think ill just go for it

[Captcol]

the lift it self was quite easy, redoing the cv boots caused me more grief. Wiring the electric fans isn't too tricky, saw push fans in repco with wiring for 150ish, think I want pull fans rather than trying to push mud through the radiator but I am willing to be corrected.

[geeves]

Lewis
Is this rust in the center or the ends of the body crossmember that runs under the radiator? Its actualy 3mm thich steel and a very common rust spot. I would recomend talking to a panel beater to weld it up properly. As its hidden the cost wont be that bad as its the finishing that costs. Most panel beaters will happily do the welding then let you sort out the paint.

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