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Postby mrsuzu » Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:05 pm

Good evening all experts,

Today when my mrs was drving our 1992 isuzu bighorn 4gj2, The power steering oil pump pulley where the two belts are attached just got broken, I don't know how, It was making some noises already, i had looked at it, but i couldn't understand that noise was comming from there maybe, I tighten the bolt which i assume is the tensioner just under it, but it didn't work, may be i did tight it too much that caused the pulley to break, Now do i have to replace the pulley only or the whole pump etc? Thank you in advance.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:48 am

How did you get red text?
Is it the pulley or shaft?
I have a spare pulley at home but if its the shaft then the pump needs rebuilding. Might be easier to get a pump from the wreckers
Sanding your knuckles before starting work can help. That way you cant skin them
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:57 pm

ok
now back to the real problem
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:00 pm

That's good you've got it. That's a quick discovery lol.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:02 pm

http://i.picresize.com/UjLQ
Here is the photo I really don't know if shaft is broken or just pulley.. Haven't stripped the pump before.. Please have a look and thanks for you help.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:09 pm

Just re read your post
When it was making noises were they squealing or gurgling or a rumble?
Squeal would be loose belts and the adjuster is the bolt that runs across the front of the engine but you have to loosen the 2 bolts into the front of the engine and the nut on the back of the pump before it will do very much. Correct tension is when a finger push on the top of the belt pushes it down about 1.5 cm. You will need these same bolts to take the pump off
Rumble can be dirty belts If so a few drops of water dropped on the belt with the engine running will make it go away for a minute or so. Not a huge amount you can do to fix except replace belts that are probably still quite good Some cleaners might work as might candle wax but not always Be careful applying candle wax as there are several moving parts there and they all want to feed on skin
Rumble can also be the bearing in the pump either worn out or over tight It will turn into a gurgle which will be accamanied by the power steer fluid going pink and overflowing This is because the pump is sucking air and foaming the fluid. New seal and bearing kit will fix. If this gets too bad the shaft can break and if you are real unlucky the pulley can hit and damage the radiator
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:11 pm

Shaft should be poking out of that hole. Do you have the missing part?
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:16 pm

geeves wrote:Shaft should be poking out of that hole. Do you have the missing part?
No sorry I don't. My mrs was driving it when i came home i just saw fluid on the road, looked for pulley but ofcourse someone picked it up already.

I replaced all the belts when i was doing time belt just few months back, The noise it started was after when i replaced that wee part which was broken last time if you remember when i was asking for your help, i just easy flowed it, the noise that coming was like metal to metal dry metal.. I was thinking to make its video when go back from work but it broken before that..
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:18 pm

And luckily the pulley didn't hit radiator because i changed radiator just a few months ago. phewww..
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:20 pm

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Now that We know the shaft is not there, Right? As per your previous comment, Do i have to source a pump from the wrecker? I saw one on trademe for 75$ but not sure if it comes with pulley, is it a good price for it? Thank you for your help.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:04 pm

you mean http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 975789.htm Price seems expensive but they are one of 2 specialist wreckers for Isuzus and they stand by there stuff. Ive bought from them before no issue. Might be the quickest option
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 616787.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 620019.htm
These are wrecking compatible vehicles. You would have to ask if the pump is available
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Wed May 25, 2016 4:35 pm

geeves wrote:you mean http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 975789.htm Price seems expensive but they are one of 2 specialist wreckers for Isuzus and they stand by there stuff. Ive bought from them before no issue. Might be the quickest option
Other choices
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 616787.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 620019.htm
These are wrecking compatible vehicles. You would have to ask if the pump is available



What CCA rating should i get for my bighorn, Currently it's running on 600cca, But i had the battery check at school and the result was 414cca remaining, which is i think not enough because at cold morning like we had few here, wouldn't start and apparently battery would die cranking, Also how do i check the glow plugs if they are in good nik, Do i have to check for the resistance with multimeter, or Volts? What resistance should it give if checked. Thank you in advance Geeves.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Thu May 26, 2016 7:36 am

The battery places that offer the test you had that rated the battery would say that battery is still okish but its only part of the story It doesnt test the reserve capacity or what happens when its really cold. I would replace that battery. 600cca will do the job but is at the limit. If you have a winch or even a descent stereo you will want to upgrade to at least 750 cca or if you can fit it a 1000cca but these are pricey
glow plugs are about 1/2 ohm each. If it sterats evenly though I doubt you have a glow plug issue
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Fri May 27, 2016 3:17 pm

geeves wrote:The battery places that offer the test you had that rated the battery would say that battery is still okish but its only part of the story It doesnt test the reserve capacity or what happens when its really cold. I would replace that battery. 600cca will do the job but is at the limit. If you have a winch or even a descent stereo you will want to upgrade to at least 750 cca or if you can fit it a 1000cca but these are pricey
glow plugs are about 1/2 ohm each. If it sterats evenly though I doubt you have a glow plug issue


That's right, I will change the battery to the higer cca, even 600 cca is like 200 bucks now, they are expensive. The battery was right until now, Since the frost has started it just wouldnt' start. Thank you Geeven.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Fri May 27, 2016 5:07 pm

When the battery died in the Wizard it was summer. It would still start the car unless you left the door open so interior lights on for more than 10 minutes. Battery place told me that battery was still good but it wasnt.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Sun May 29, 2016 10:51 am

geeves wrote:When the battery died in the Wizard it was summer. It would still start the car unless you left the door open so interior lights on for more than 10 minutes. Battery place told me that battery was still good but it wasnt.


That's happening with my truck since last few months, If i live the the headlights on for more than 10 mins bang battery is gone, Like you said Interior light over night and it wouldnt' start. Which brand do you reckon i should get?
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Sun May 29, 2016 1:49 pm

Century Yusua and Ultima make there own batterys all the others could come from the same place. For most people they are all fine. Its only if doing lots of winching or regularly parking on top of mountains that it makes a difference
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby mrsuzu » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:00 pm

geeves wrote:Century Yusua and Ultima make there own batterys all the others could come from the same place. For most people they are all fine. Its only if doing lots of winching or regularly parking on top of mountains that it makes a difference
century is good I have currently got a century battery on it which is dead. I have removed battery from my surf which is 750 cca starts well now. When i turn the ignition on the glow plug light is on for a few seconds just after its off I hear a tang like voice coming from engine. Why is that happening ? When i try to start the engine immediately after the glow plug light goes off. It takes long to crank but when I hear that noise and crank it stars easily. Second thing my heater is not really warm the way I want it to be. It's just luke warm. What should I do to keep nice and warm for Invercargill. I tried searching the heater topic but couldn't find any satisfactory answer. Thank you.
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Re: Power steering pump pulley Snapped.

Postby geeves » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:48 am

Could be air in the heater core or a bad engine thermostat
Check your charging voltage It should be 13.5 to 14.5 with the engine running around 1500
Easiest way to kill a battery is to leave it flat for a week or so
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